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Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:15:00 -
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Killdeer Okel wrote:He has currently suspended the program due to contact with CCP. https://cogdev.net/blink/?act=gtcHe linked his proposal as well: https://cogdev.net/blink/affiliate.rtfInteresting to not the following statements from it: "Blink will buy the PLEX from you at a published rate that is the same for all ETC buyers" "Blink provides no extra ISK or bonus Blink credit for buying through the link." "We publish a price available to anyone: "Blink will buy your PLEX for ____ ISK!" " A legal department should have caught the obfuscation with the wording. Obviously whoever approved it did not. man how did they not catch that |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:23:00 -
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the last line of the proposal gives away what hes planning too, that he'll overpay
the no bonus clause is intended to snooker the reader into not noticing its limited to only not paying directly for the buy, so you wont notice you agreed to let him overpay for the plex itself
clever but obviously intended to deceive whoever signed off on it |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:30:00 -
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Xeleonn wrote:I don't think there's any deception here, The first step of the Workflow contains the message that they intended to use on the service, stating that they intend to give 'the best' price.
'1. Blink messaging: "Buy your Eve Time Codes through SOMER Blink and we'll buy your PLEX from you! No need to spend time flying to Jita to sell-- we guarantee we'll give you the best price!"' they want the reader to believe the point of the program is convenience, when the point is significantly overpaying
its definitely intended to decieve |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:36:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Xeleonn wrote:I don't think there's any deception here, The first step of the Workflow contains the message that they intended to use on the service, stating that they intend to give 'the best' price.
'1. Blink messaging: "Buy your Eve Time Codes through SOMER Blink and we'll buy your PLEX from you! No need to spend time flying to Jita to sell-- we guarantee we'll give you the best price!"' they want the reader to believe the point of the program is convenience, when the point is significantly overpaying its definitely intended to decieve if it's 'definitely' intended to deceive, then you shouldn't have any trouble providing evidence of how definite it is. Surely you have such evidence if things are so definite for you. i do not see how this mysterious trout in this milk proves anything about it being watered down -remiel pollard |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:50:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:if it's 'definitely' intended to deceive, then you shouldn't have any trouble providing evidence of how definite it is. Surely you have such evidence if things are so definite for you. Don't quibble over words, it's unseemly. Quibble? What he said amounts to, "It's obvious the world was created in six days, just look around you!" If it's so obvious, then there will be evidence. Is it quibbling to ask for clarification on a claim made without evidence? I think what you're asking me to do is accept the claim and shut up. I won't. It's not definitely intended to deceive until evidence can be provided of said intended deception. Any accusations or 'verdict' made without that evidence is nothing but a witch hunt. If you want to lower yourself to that level, then that's your problem, but don't expect me to follow on your say so. I want the evidence before I accept that any deception was intended or even made, and you can take your childish attempts to belittle the need for that evidence back to a bible study where they belong.
what evidence, besides the fifteen stab wounds in the back, do we have that someone intentionally stabbed this person? perhaps we ought not leap to conclusions because we do not understand what the concept of evidence is |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: No, what he said amounts to "notice how this doesn't mention anything about selling way above market price".
not just doesn't mention, but carefully leaves it open while carefully implying it won't happen and implying the real value is you can sell anywhere |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 04:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Still you.
Next time, say that with more foot stomping, the tantrum might have more of an effect that way.
the basic problem is you're simply not smart enough to participate in this discussion which is why you're only getting dismissive analogies that make clear to all readers why you're wrong (though probably not you, through no fault of the analogy)
any thinking person can realize how you can determine intent through actions (it is indeed the only way to determine intent): by looking at what somer wrote and seeing how carefully it implied X while not saying X and carefully making sure you could do the exact opposite of X, anyone who can reason from actions can see that's intentional
everyone who reads that the first time sees what somer wanted people to see and it's only once you read carefully (or know what somer was doing) you see the clauses that basically reverse the intent of the whole thing
you don't do that by accident, but unfortunately i regret this probably is a little advanced so i hope you have a good night and are a little sharper in the morning |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 04:02:00 -
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that every puzzle piece is yellow or neon pink is no evidence that this is not the puzzle of saint peter's basilica i purchased
where is the evidence, people |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 04:14:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Andski wrote:Quote:Blink provides no extra ISK or bonus Blink credit for buying through the link. Instead, we make it easy to sell your PLEX and get your ISK quickly, no matter where you are-- no Jita alt required. This is a service, in keeping with CCP's new guidelines that ETC affiliate link rewards should be service-oriented.
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1. 1.Blink messaging: "Buy your Eve Time Codes through SOMER Blink and we'll buy your PLEX from you! No need to spend time flying to Jita to sell-- we guarantee we'll give you the best price!"
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GÇóPlayers who want more ISK value from their PLEX than they could get selling it by themselves will be encouraged to spend money on PLEX, since they are guaranteed the best price in the Eve universe if you cannot see how this ambiguous wording was clearly intended to deceive the reader I have no words Actually that first bolded part would seem to be a flat out lie. you don't get extra isk for buying through the link
you get extra isk through the separate sale back to somer, which is something different under the structure he set up
i think you can make a good argument he got too clever for himself here and that the top line actually controls throughout and that he didn't succeed in getting ccp sanction for his latest rmt scheme, but he's definitely trying and whoever signed off on it definitely didn't read it closely |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:47:00 -
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Telerus Malix wrote:I simply do not understand the implications of this, Why is it of any concern to what somber blink does for promotions?
500 billion isk they are giving out is already circulating in game, and somer has at least 30-40 trillion in just pure profits from a mathmatical stand point.
They run a tight ship, people aren't being scammed, so what concern is it if they give 10 people 50 billion?
CCP couldn't stop it if they wanted to.
Somer has more isk than he can ever practically use, and is turning to what everyone who has more isk than they can use at least idly thinks of: RMT. And if Somer can do it, so can anyone else, and that's not a door you want opened. |

Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.08.20 18:57:00 -
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dexington wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Andski wrote:Man you've really been showcasing mod abilities in this thread: endless quotes per post, images, oh boy It's almost as if there is real forum software buried under here. They just haven't unchecked the [Sucks] box in the config section for us regular users. edit: the IRONY /and divine confirmation. The images are linked from external sites, i hope they never enable that feature for monkey class users, but i guess it would be fun to datamine ip/browser info and try and match it to users to detects alts and other fun stuff. you're half a decade too late on that idea heh |
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